New banner?

Post by **Inquisitor** » Mon May 16, 2005 7:31 pm

Something with a bit more pizazz?

I think I would like to play up the "eXiles" and downplay (a bit, not entirely) the Shattered Star part.

Friendship should be prominent.

I think it was the Guild Wars banner that did the words "shatterd star" in the background, something like that.

Anyway, I think it's time for a new font at least, it looks a little plain. THe main site has a decent one, wouldn't mind seeing some parity between the two as well.

Thoughts? Or leave well enough alone?

Post by **Messiah** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:09 pm

Change it. I never really cared for the 'exiles' font.

Why not sticky a thread and put submissions in it. Give it a few weeks and we can vote on what is proposed. Give eveyone interested a chance to try their hand at new banner.

BlueFlames · Post by **BlueFlames** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:26 pm

I was under the impression that that image was a placeholder anyway.

My advice regarding a new logo would be to capitalize the 'e' in exiles, not the 'x'. It looks tacky and implies some degree of immaturity* with the capital 'x' and either a lower-case or no 'e'. Mind you, I think the SSX tags look fine, but seeing "eXiles" instead of "Exiles" in the banner makes me cringe.

* -- I don't know about you, but seeing words typed up like, "eXtreme" conjures images of a couple of half-drunk fifteen year-old losers hanging around outside their school, bitching about "the man" not letting them grind down a stairwell railing in the building during class hours.

Post by **Inquisitor** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:46 pm

heh, I kinda like the "X"

I'll sticky this one, make it a members only submission

esd · Post by **esd** » Mon May 16, 2005 9:49 pm

I too like the capitalised X. We are the SSX, not the SSE afterall.

Post by **Anubis** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:02 pm

I agree with both Quiz and esd. I've grown fond of having the X capitalised.

BlackDove · Post by **BlackDove** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:31 pm

I like the X.

And I'll try see what I can cook up myself.

What we should also be talking about is the logo. Personally I'd like to get rid of the star somewhere down the line, as well as the "Shattered Star" part, and come up with something original as far as the shape goes.

That's just me however.

Post by **M.Steiner** » Tue May 17, 2005 12:11 am

If i get some time i'll have a play about in photoshop and see what i come up with.

Same size as the current forum banner/same background colour? We having a fresh forum look with it or just the banner?

I also agree with BD, i think it'd be nice to slowly get rid of the Shattered Star part of our name and just use exiles instead. We all know what we became exiles of without keeping the shattered star part, its been 8months since we moved on now. So i don't personally see the need to keep it.

Just simply, Exiles or eXiles sounds great to me.

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 1:07 am

Just like in GW though, having the Shattered Star in the background, just de-emphasized would be keen.

We do after all have an shatteredstar url

Post by **Messiah** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:13 am

I like the shattered star. Nothing shameful about what it once stood for, and the fact that it brought so many of us together. It is our history and the only reason we are here. This group did not form because it rejected what the SSC stood for, it formed because this group cherished what the SSC stood for. I think it would be sad to abandon it.

But that is just me. The glass is half full.

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 4:02 am

By no means suggesting abadoning it.

But we are who we are, and many have taken to calling us "exiles" so, in GW for instance, the banner is behind the word exiles.

Downplaying the SS part

BlackDove · Post by **BlackDove** » Tue May 17, 2005 4:26 am

Messiah wrote:I like the shattered star. Nothing shameful about what it once stood for, and the fact that it brought so many of us together. It is our history and the only reason we are here. This group did not form because it rejected what the SSC stood for, it formed because this group cherished what the SSC stood for. I think it would be sad to abandon it.

But that is just me. The glass is half full.

Agreed, but that's not the point as far as I'm concerned.

Shattered Star as it is now (and I'm not going to pretend like they don't exist. Ignoring is one thing, but being in denial is another) is downright shameful as far as I'm concerned. The way I figure, what it was, we took with ourselves.

Associating further with something I do not like, is simply putting me off on quite a bit of levels. I agree we should keep it as some sort of memory "as we once were" type of a thing, but the fact is, what we have now is 10x better. Even when things were nice and dandy in the SSC, I always knew I had a team of *not appropriate* above me (face it - founder was always god). The fact we stayed the hell away from eachother for 2 1/2 years (out of the 3-3 1/2 I was there) was just a fabulous streak of luck.

It'll be eight months at the end of May. September first we're coming up on a year.

Again, I can only speak for myself, but downplaying the "Shattered Star" bit is the least I could do.

Plus, I believe if I team up with MS, KJ, (Lightspeed god willing) we can come up with a profoundly better logo than a star divided in pieces.

Sorry, I know this isn't the point of the thread (makes me look like a drama queen), but I thought it'd be a good time to start talking "change". We're better than them (sorry if it's rude, but that's just how it is from my point of view) so why hang on to something worse?

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The above is the main reason why I want the separation. There are a few other very practical reasons that support my main dislike. We can talk about them at an appropriate time.

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:07 am

Well, we have a URL, so, it should remain part of the name until such time as we have a different URL.

Lets concentrate on the image itself and leave the emotional response in IRC for now.

Post by **M.Steiner** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:52 am

~Using the same font we have on our frontpage.

esd · Post by **esd** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:51 am

Dunno.. it's lacking... something

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 1:40 pm

I would, if I had any artistic talent:

1) Move the Shattered Star so it was slightly behind eXiles, and maybe fade the text just a very tiny amount.

2) Make eXiles slightly bigger and center it mor in the banner

3) Make friendship the word slightly smaller font and MAYBE collapse it so it's all in the lower right, similar to the current one. Only maybe with the latter part, I like the idea it's the tie that binds and cross the whole organization.

Post by **M.Steiner** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:02 pm

Hows that?

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:27 pm

Heh, very few people can do that MS, read my mind when it comes to explaining art. Pretty damn close to what I was thinking

perhaps the "Shattered Star" as the a background, instead of melting into eXiles?, and maybe a slightly, slightly larger font for eXiles.

Post by **M.Steiner** » Tue May 17, 2005 3:11 pm

#1

#2

#3

~Think i'd prolly go with no.1 out of those ones.

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 3:21 pm

Yah, of those number 1 is my fav.

Post by **Messiah** » Tue May 17, 2005 3:54 pm

Yeah, I like the first as well. Good work MS.

BlackDove · Post by **BlackDove** » Tue May 17, 2005 4:45 pm

Looking good to me.

Post by **Anubis** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:02 pm

Yep, the first one is my favourite too. Nice job MS

BlueFlames · Post by **BlueFlames** » Tue May 17, 2005 6:13 pm

Yeah, number one looks like a winner to me.

Post by **Inquisitor** » Tue May 17, 2005 6:33 pm

Lets try that one for now, keep posting stuff if you have suggestions.

I renamed the old one, so it's not lost.