Just to reply to a couple comments before bed;
Anubis wrote:"Testing" doesn't include abandoning old platforms completely during the process, it's very clear BD and MS have made the decision already.
When I opened the Discord channel for us and posted this thread I had not made any decisions at all other than to create a potential new place for us to chat which would supposedly offer more than what we get from IRC and would hopefully be easier for us (and guests) to connect to, set-up and use. I'd never used it before either so I was neither one way or the other. I wanted people to come & try it with me. After using it all week? I think it does.
I made my mind up fast that I love what Discord has has to offer but I don't speak for everyone, that's why I've been trying to get all of us in there to try it so we could hear what everyone had to say about it. Maybe this could have been handled better but having you two purposefully stay back and seemingly refuse to even try it hasn't really helped either. When all you had to do was click a link, didn't even have to install anything
Anubis wrote:the more people swing by while I'm ingame, message me about it, and then logoff before I can see it and respond, the less inclined I am too
I actually thought you were ignoring me and that's when I started to wonder whether I'd upset you or not. I'd slapped you on the main channel a few days before and didn't see a response when you were on there for 5-6? hrs, and then when I dropped by a day or two later and saw you in there again but not on Discord, not responding again. Did cross my mind. Also wondered whether you were busy in TW3 or just afk which is where my other comment came from that if you had the Discord app on your phone you'd not only be able to see the chat but get a notification on your phone that someone was talking to you as well. Was just trying to be lighthearted with the latter, but it's true. As for my other comments, I was just trying to encourage you both to come across & try with the rest of us rather than you being left out and sat back there on your own. Couldn't understand why neither of you had come across when you could have it open in a browser tab like any other website, so I tried to promote how easy that was. Didn't seem nice to ignore you both knowing you were sat there with the rest of us testing Discord.
Anubis wrote:Likewise, the "if you don't come do it you won't see us anymore since we're not coming back here" leaves a bad and insulting taste in my mouth. As have the pointed and disparaging comments every time I've looked back in here, when they're overtly pointing out they're not looking here and the rest of us are hindering them somewhat
I don't think I've ever said this myself up until after Tbirds post? I did say I'd stop coming on IRC whilst we were testing Discord (other than the flyby visits I said I'd do) as there didn't seem much point in joining both when the idea was for people to try this new thing, rather than trying to use both at the same time, thus splitting both the chat & our users. IRC wasn't going anywhere, I would have come back to IRC if the group had later decided (for whatever crazy reason
) that they preferred it over Discord and wanted to stay there as a group. - Since getting hands on with Discord too though I wouldn't be leaving that either.
So, and I'm not throwing my teddy out of the pram when saying this or having a go - My imput stops here. I try my best but I'm clearly not very good at trying to do things for the group as I usually seem to <censored> up one way or another or upset someone along the way. If you guys wanna have a discussion or poll on each and every thing we do as a group before we even do them, rather than have someone take the initiative to set something up for the group with the initial intention of us simply to try
it. And I
have always said to try
it. Fine. Expect me to be taking more of a backseat from here on out.
We have IRC. We have Discord. Neither are going anywhere. Please consider trying the latter if you haven't yet. Use one, use the other, or use both. Each of you can decide what you want to use. Yes I love Discord now I've been using it this past week and would still remain on there too
, regardless of whether we had chosen to remain on there as a group or not but all I've
been asking for is for people to come try it as I did for the first time when I posted this thread, so we could reach such a decision as a group and either adpot Discord as our new main chat or stay on IRC, rather than having us split between 2 different STR channels. I didn't want us split but we can't do that when not all of us were coming across to test the damn thing and my "forcefulness" wasn't meant as such, but just to help promote us to do that and keep us all in one place whether we stayed there or came back. Together, even if some people still used whichever we left on an individual level. So, I will not force Discord on anyone and I will stop trying to encourage those of you (2) who were left behind on IRC to come and join us on there if you're happy where you are. If you're on Discord but you'd rather be using IRC?, I can't stop you. Use what you please, the decision is yours. This is just not how I wanted us to go about it but there you go. Just hope we don't end up here there and everywhere.... nn